Cherry~ Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 @GooBurberrHara That's an amazing analysis Yeah, when I watched JCL, I saw heaps of Nicole so I'm not really all that surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pe_co Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 wow ! you are so good !!! I'm surprised when seeing Jing's screen time was almost on top in the previous MVs ! It maybe DSP's promotion plan ?? thank you for spending time searching and capturing all the moments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heleth Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 (edited) Now this is very interesting Hara, Nicole and Gyuri are naturally popular due to their apperances on various variety shows where as our maknae needs more exposure When I first got expose to KARA, Nicole was the one that got me into them Edited June 14, 2011 by Heleth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserKawaii Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 @GooBuberrHara: Ohhh. Nice. I agree with most of what you just said. I think Nicole just lacks the "aegyo" part of being an idol. And yeah... Ham does know and have it all. Must be from her promoting KARA in the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooBurberrHara Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 @GooBuberrHara: Ohhh. Nice. I agree with most of what you just said. I think Nicole just lacks the "aegyo" part of being an idol. And yeah... Ham does know and have it all. Must be from her promoting KARA in the beginning. well it isn't an expert analysis or anything, it's really just my opinion of why things are the way they are. Nicole does lack "aegyo" but not everyone has it either, which I think adds to her "normal girl" charm. Nicole has a large female fan-base from what I have gathered so her lacking aegyo is fine; most people think it's just as cute when she tries. Also, you can take into consideration that I'm only talking about korean MV's here, the Japanese one's are a whole different ball game. @Heleth: I actually don't think Gyuri is naturally popular. In fact, everyone BUT Gyuri(who is one of my biases) seems to be naturally popular. Despite the fact that Gyuri goes on ton's of variety shows, she was, if I recall correctly, the ONLY member of Kara not to receive 100% public recognition in a popularity poll, JiYoung might not have either, but either way, JiYoung still ranked higher than Gyuri which is why I think JiYoung also has lots of "naturally popular" potential which is why in my opinion I'm fine with jiyoung getting "shafted" because she is able to attract fans without the push. Gyuri even has the advantage over Jiyoung of being an original member and so having the opportunity to already have a large and stable fanbase and yet JiYoung is still more popular than her in both the Korean and Japanese fandoms. Sure Jiyoung could use more air-time but I'm positive she is fine without it. In my view I'm glad that Hara(even though she is my eternal bias) doesn't get that much screen time. Gyuri needs it; they don't push her intentionally, it' just that the amount of lines she sings in songs automatically puts her high up on the list. The fan disparity, even talking about in Japan is way too large to ignore, again proving in a way that Gyuri is neither naturally popular or fandom popular. There are almost 10,000 members between JiYoung and Gyuri and almost 20,00 between she and Hara in Mixi. Hara may have strated out with the boost of looking like a famous jpop star, but she has since started to earn fans in her own right. It's sad for me as a huge Gyuri fan because I feel like she is respected as the "leader" of Kara and thats about it. They acknowledge her position as leader but would much rather be a fan of Seungyeon or Hara in Korea-Nicole, Seungyeon, Hara internationally, and Jiyoung, or Hara in Japan. Anyways I should stop talking about this, but I really do have lot of opinions about the Dynamics of Kara and why they are successful and why things are the way they are. I guess it's because I'm a really big AKB48 fan and so the dynamics of screen time are important to me. screen time means lots of things...not just this person is popular or this person is the lead singer, but anyways...thanks for reading my long post yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neris Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 I wanna know the statistics for Go go Summer~~ please :3 BUT I'm pretty sure that there were more group scenes~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblie Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) dang this is amazing. Thank you so much for sharing~ Also I've enjoyed reading GooBurberrHara's analysis on why the members have differing screen times. It made a lot of sense to me. I'm glad that the screen time disparity isn't too bad~ (The SNSD stat makes me sad. Poor Hyo. ) Edited June 23, 2011 by bubblie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadine Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 wow what a dedication hahaha nicole has a lot and so is seungyeon hehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suavealicia Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Wow I'm really shock that even nowadays Hara don't get a lot of screen time because it seem like she does or maybe it's just me being a delusional Hara fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freiya Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Hmm, this is interesting, would have thought that gyuri and seungyeon would have the most time cos they sing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Thanks for this! It's kinda interesting to see what impressions the MV gives vs what is actually recorded. I'm surprised Hara had more time on the Korean "Jumping" and SY more time on the JP "Jumping" (maybe because of the intro?) I thought it would be the other way around, although I guess this is only mere seconds of a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dras63 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 heaps of effort and i commend you for it, it seems they all get their time to shine when it comes to the mv's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ryu Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 I'm wondering what their new "Grand Totals" are now with their new music videos already out. Keep up the good work. We appreciate your hard work and dedication here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfish524 Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 (edited) Wow Nicole has jumped up in status ever since Kara went from 4 members to 5. This is some really awesome work, really interested thread. Thanks! P.S I totally expected Nicole to win for "Mister" and "Lupin" Edited November 19, 2011 by goldfish524 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKee Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 This is a really great information... Poor Jiyoung...she gets the least screen time... And of course the three lead vocals get the most screen time~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahelovi Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 This is really great to know. Glad to see that Nicole has increased in her air time in their vids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haru*Haru Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 whoaa interesting, you actually did this? hardcore kamilia yeaaah hahaa xD its cool how nicole used to get the least screen time but at KARA5 era she got the most screen time. i really thought it was hara who gets the most screen time tho. thanks for doing this! its actually a really fun thing to know about our kara <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex21 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 This is A for effort. Looking at the stats, they pretty much have an evenly distributed screentime across all MVs. Though Hara and Jiyoung got the least, there is only little deviation from the average time. But I hope Hara and Gyuri get even more screentime in the future since they're my biases.lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoju Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Awesome. All the non-Kamilia Hara haters need to take a look at these numbers and see that she actually gets less time than the average. Poor girl gets hated on so much because people think the camera is always on her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Hara and Jing don't get as much air time cuz they don't sing as much. Nicole gets the most cuz she sings and raps. But Hara does get alot of airtime for music shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardcolefan Tuna Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Interesting and cool thread. I would give all of my thumbs to this thread Hope you make the new update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tan Jian Xuan Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I agree with what you mention about SNSD, way back when I was a soshi, I felt rather sad knowing that Hyoyeon have so little time appearing on MVs. Thank you so much for compiling the datss ! I mean, who would thought of this? and this Requires a lot a lot of efforts ! Luckily Kara have a fair amount of appearance in the MV, everyone is fair . Kara JJiang ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudiaRox Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Well I wish Jiyoung will have more screentime in the near future but i think Kara is some of the most balanced group there ever is, kara daebak!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Reis Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Wow, this is an excellent information! I was questioning it for a few days ago, because realizes that in the SNSD, the producers did not share scenes properly, then Jessica is usually in the main focus. This is annoying, because all should appear, and KARA only have 5 girls, they should also appear, is not it? But it does not work well, besides the MV's we see that the lines, not counting the chorus, realizes that Nicole, SeungYeon dominate the songs. This is annoying for the others, they do not sing and not appear so. And that includes Gyuri (because it is the leader), before seeing it, I thought she was the least that appeared in the clips. thanks for the information and count the seconds, must have given a lot of work to do all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffyluffy Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Wow how did you calculate even to the millisecond? Anyway, thanks lots for sharing! Hope Hara and Jiyoung get more statistical screentime soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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