fantomas Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 KARA 's Winter Magic Sales the last 4 days: 1st: 32k+ 2nd: 17k+ 3rd: 8k+ 4th: 5k7 So total sales of 4 days about 63-65k. If it continues like this, KARA has a huge chance to stay in top 3 this week (No.1 NMB 48, No.2 Bump of Chicken already cement their spot) with the sales about 80k. Less than us expect but not too bad for No.3 position p/s: If UMJ release this single 1 or 2 week earlier, with this sales KARA will be No.1 LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex21 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 Wow, it's really been hot in here for the past few days when I wasn't around. I really don't think we should be worrying so much about how well this single does on the charts. I mean, is every thing about competition and sales only? So many of the previous posts have stated ample reasons about why this single has physical sales not up to par of KARA's previous releases, so it really doesn't mean KARA's popularity is falling in Japan. Even if it is falling at all, so what? Just continue supporting and loving KARA and their music. Unpopular KARA is still the KARA we love, isn't it? Or are we supporting KARA just because they are already popular? And it's unrealistic to have every single doing exceptionally well, not that WM isn't doing well since its dominating the charts digitally. That means people still listen to WM, just not buying the physical single. That means WM appeals to them, only that they're opting for a cheaper method to listen to the song since they may not have enough money due to the many prior releases before this without a longer gap. I really don't see why so many are claiming WM isn't doing well. If anything, I think its quite popular already in Japan despite being out-of-season. On a positive note, we never know if WM, which is released out-of-season, may come back and be a hit during the winter. Who knows if the sales will suddenly spike when the season comes? Very well said. I couldn't have said it better. Totally agree with everything said above. I mean, we can talk about all the reasons that we can think of why KARA's WM sales is not at par with their previous singles, we can worry and think that KARA's popularity is depreciating in Japan, actually we can think about all sorts of stuffs but at the end of the day, we all still support our girls right? So like what I've always said, let's just continue to have faith in our girls. I'm sure they'll do well, better yet they'll do great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuriFTW Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) Incoming chart spam! Sorry for the delay but life's been really busy recently and I lost all my bookmarks when I got a new computer :/ ^^^I think this is the Chaku Uta full ranking but there's a discrepancy with this site and the chart Tokyohive posted. This one says KARA 2nd and Jay'edxJUJU 4th, while Tokyohive has Jay'edxJUJU 2nd and KARA 3rd.^^^^ 10/18 - #4 10/19 - #2 10/20 - #3 10/21 - #3 So it looks like #3 or #4 for the weekly right? Maybe around 70k sales? Such rotten luck. Other groups always get higher chart positions despite selling less. Edited October 22, 2011 by gyuriFTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimngocnguyen06 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 I just had a thought, that when KARA promote this single it mostly on interview. Since the girls are not really perform this song as much as the other singles. The only time the girls perform this single so far, to me are music station, soon music lovers, and music japan. I think that maybe when KARA release the full album in november, the girls may perform this song full promotion like the other single. Since I think it could help if they promote this song along with the album, so that the girls would be promote two different thing. Plus if the album is schedule to release in november, it would be close to winter. So the girls would be promote the album, but perform WM. I don't know it just a thought. I think I gone crazy, and overthink it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 Wow, it's really been hot in here for the past few days when I wasn't around. I really don't think we should be worrying so much about how well this single does on the charts. I mean, is every thing about competition and sales only? So many of the previous posts have stated ample reasons about why this single has physical sales not up to par of KARA's previous releases, so it really doesn't mean KARA's popularity is falling in Japan. Even if it is falling at all, so what? Just continue supporting and loving KARA and their music. Unpopular KARA is still the KARA we love, isn't it? Or are we supporting KARA just because they are already popular? And it's unrealistic to have every single doing exceptionally well, not that WM isn't doing well since its dominating the charts digitally. That means people still listen to WM, just not buying the physical single. That means WM appeals to them, only that they're opting for a cheaper method to listen to the song since they may not have enough money due to the many prior releases before this without a longer gap. I really don't see why so many are claiming WM isn't doing well. If anything, I think its quite popular already in Japan despite being out-of-season. On a positive note, we never know if WM, which is released out-of-season, may come back and be a hit during the winter. Who knows if the sales will suddenly spike when the season comes? Great post! You said everything I wanted to say. Rankings and sales aren't everything and KARA are still doing just as well or better than many established acts in Japan. I thnk fans got greedy because their previous couple of singles sold well. WM might not have sold as much first week as their previous songs but they and their management took a bit of a risk releasing a balllad but the it has still sold well, is also doing well digitally and has allowed the group to try something different. There is also the chance that the single might have longevity and stick around the charts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanda Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 12,201 BUMP OF CHICKEN *6,414 KARA *4,437 NMB48 倉木麻衣 Acid Black Cherry CNBLUE L'Arc~en~Ciel KARA is number 2 yay, i can't wait to see the sales in total of the week. Position wise KARA is doing good, there're consistent. KARA just need more promotion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantomas Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 I have another thought here. Winter Magic this time really lacks of promotions because: 1. Contract issues with DSP, maybe UMJ is milking KARA and don't want to put it too much effort to promote this single. 2. UMJ want to test the "real" popularity of KARA in Japan. So far, almost every single and album of KARA (and other Kpop artists) were promoted heavily. I think this time UMJ want to "check" and see whether Japanese really consider KARA Jpop group or not p/s: I saw 1 comment in this thread "Japan is tired of KARA, KARA should go back to Korea" and like "what the h...?" Seriously? This comment came from a Kamilia? So you just support KARA because they famous? For god sake..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex21 Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 Looking at their daily ranking upto now, KARA has a great chance of getting the 3rd spot in Oricon's Weekly ranking (well, 1st and 2nd rank are pretty much out of the question already). Being in the top three is great considering that they have tough competition. KARA HWAITING!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radenoactive Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 ^ lol, that's kinda random thoughts but anything can happened. Just we don't know what happened behind the scene. Actually, i can't wait to see the effect of weekend boost, hopefully, it will bring some surprise to us. about the comment, i didn't take it seriously. It's either came from member who were catching their post counts or doesn't know much about giving a proper thoughts in this discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red4summer Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 I have another thought here. Winter Magic this time really lacks of promotions because: 1. Contract issues with DSP, maybe UMJ is milking KARA and don't want to put it too much effort to promote this single. 2. UMJ want to test the "real" popularity of KARA in Japan. So far, almost every single and album of KARA (and other Kpop artists) were promoted heavily. I think this time UMJ want to "check" and see whether Japanese really consider KARA Jpop group or not p/s: I saw 1 comment in this thread "Japan is tired of KARA, KARA should go back to Korea" and like "what the h...?" Seriously? This comment came from a Kamilia? So you just support KARA because they famous? For god sake..... i checked and believe you have misinterpreted, i don't think the member has those thougths in mind. about promotion, i have seen advertisements put up on buses and shibuya street. it's just that they are not shared here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanda Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 ^ it's not like there isn't any. But, in comparisons to the others singles. This one is having less and slow promo. They appeared on Music Japan (10/23) i hope this help them more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooBurberrHara Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 I see people are still a bit worried. DON"T BE!!! Kara is doing fine with sales, and the number seem to be very consistent. For something so out of season, it's doing very nicely and the public seem to be taking to it well despite that fact. Kara doesn't have to hit 100k sales in the first week for a single to mean success, in the music industry it's all about the longevity. If Kara can stay on the chart in a good position for a decent amount of time, I think it will be like GGS where in the end, the compensation for lower first day numbers, is a higher selling single. Like someone else commented, we love Kara for Kara, not because they are popular or sell X amount of albums, we Kamilia aren't bandwagon fans who go where the album sales and popularity are, we have been with Kara through ALOT worse than sales below 100K....Don't worry everyone, the best part of making it to the top is looking back on all the bumps and bruises you got on the way there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuriFTW Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 10/18 - #4 10/19 - #2 10/20 - #3 10/21 - #3 10/22 - #2 Nice weekend boost. I think that makes 68k sales so far? Weekly should be around 75-77k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetofuu Posted October 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 Overall, KARA did fairly well with the minimum promotion they did and maybe the contract with UM is ending with the sudden album coming too. But whatever KARA chooses, we all have to accept :] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taypeng Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 What a wonderful song to spend with the winter coming. And whisper is just awesome as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solin Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 I really like Winter Magic and it was a nice idea to release a ballad for once ! About the sales...I think they did quite good for something out of season and even if the sales are lower than their previous singles...KARA still keep showing consistency on chart and to me it is the most important. I know that we are used to big sales but Kamilia have to keep positive mind and faith in KARA. The rumored next album doesn't help a lot either...just wait and see how good their next album would do instead of beeing so negative ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanda Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 10,016 BUMP OF CHICKEN *5,794 KARA *3,782 NMB48 Acid Black Cherry CNBLUE 藍井エイル i think it's safe to say that KARA is going to be on the Top 3 weekly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantomas Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 10,016 BUMP OF CHICKEN *5,794 KARA *3,782 NMB48 Acid Black Cherry CNBLUE 藍井エイル i think it's safe to say that KARA is going to be on the Top 3 weekly Definitely will, KARA gonna be in No.3 position with the sales around 80-83k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendonDandy Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 Winter Magic and Whisper are such wonderful songs!! I LOVING IT!!! Hope KARA will continue making new and wonderful songs!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuit Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 By the end of the month, they've probably already shipped 100K, which is still not too bad at all. Since the album is confirmed, it might get even slower. But *shrugs*, WM already proved to be successful and I'm sure it'll be played more during in Dec/Jan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuriFTW Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 That makes around 76k now. Mondays are usually a low selling day so WM should finish just around or a little bit lower than 80k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radenoactive Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 265,435 NMB48 153,381 BUMP OF CHICKEN 78,148 KARA 71,200 CNBLUE 49,507 Acid Black Cherry Lol, our earlier prediction game was irrelevant~ I hope a greater number for Super Girl, since the fans are saving money for it.. 3rd for the week is not bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanda Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 (edited) ^I hope for that too, that Super Girl is going to sell good. I hope they have a good 2nd week for this single. It would be still nice to see crossing the 100k mark. The other 2 singles what they sold in this week: ***,959 *,226,958 KARA / GO GO サマー! ***,541 *,224,274 KARA / ジェットコースターラブ Daily ranking: 5,487 BUMP OF CHICKEN 3,181 KARA 2,397 NMB48 Acid Black Cherry CNBLUE Edited October 25, 2011 by Nanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
329.724.611 Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 For me, Winter Magic did great, especially considering all the factors surrounding it.. Congrats to KARA and this single!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grainy Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 (edited) 265,435 NMB48 153,381 BUMP OF CHICKEN 78,148 KARA 71,200 CNBLUE 49,507 Acid Black Cherry Lol, our earlier prediction game was irrelevant~ I hope a greater number for Super Girl, since the fans are saving money for it.. 3rd for the week is not bad! Hey I got the closest prediction ! (30K-40K for daily and 75k-100K for weekly) Edited October 25, 2011 by grainy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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