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This is getting ridiculous!

I thought they're gonna discuss this properly until everything is finalize and make sense... but what is this lawsuit that is happening again?

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This is getting ridiculous!

I thought they're gonna discuss this properly until everything is finalize and make sense... but what is this lawsuit that is happening again?

Yea I also thought they were starting to talk thing out...

What a sudden move

Looks like its time to monitor the news again. Man last month was worrying enough and now it began again.

KARA5EVER!

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http://www.allkpop.com/2011/02/karas-seungyeon-nicole-jiyoung-formally-file-a-lawsuit-against-dsp-media

I don't know if i could trust AKP, if ever they filed now, I hope this dispute ends so soon.

:mellow: <--my face when I read the news.

...things had cooled off quite a bit in the last weeks, but it looks like a new chapter is starting. *sigh*

The filing of an official lawsuit is very worrying.

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I'm still very confident that Kara will remain as a unit of five in the end; however, if certain events do occur, then Kara will end up as a unit of three. And by the circumstances given, the reputation of not only Kara, but also the Korean music industry will be compromised. I'm not really blaming any side. It's just that there has to be a clear understanding and a resolution that needs to be made that outlines the issues that have formed before this whole freaking crisis.

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gawd. TT^TT :dead:

why is this happening again??

i hope that everything will be cleared already~ :determined:

sigh.. our girls are already under too much pressure..

hope they can take all of it..

i believe kara will remain as 5!!!!! :optimistic:

don't want them to be like tvxq.. :touched:

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Why is this starting all over again..sobs*sobs*

I hope that KARA will always be 5 Members not one less.

Kamilias will always be supporting you girls. Kara Hwaiting.

I wished that this could be resolve without much changes...sobs*sobs*:(

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I really wanna kill allkpop coz of there new article about hams dad saying the leader is at fault. An for assuming that he ment Gyuri. Which he didn't. He was probably talking about the CEO's wife. Coz hams dad already mentioned that the girls don't have any issues. It's like they've got nothing left to write about so they are coming up with all sort is BS.

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This is heartbreaking, this new year's beginning taste bitter and sour. I really dont know how kara will raise up from this chaos but certainely do hope they will still be together

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@scooby: there was already a newer article that said the Ham's dad was indeed talking about Gyuri. Something about not blaming her but disappointed. @_@ Dunno if I will believe that... not until ben and yoo confirms it.

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@scooby: there was already a newer article that said the Ham's dad was indeed talking about Gyuri. Something about not blaming her but disappointed. @_@ Dunno if I will believe that... not until ben and yoo confirms it.

I get the impression he thinks Gyuri didn't try hard enough to present complaints of the rest of the group to DSP. I think he's being unfair to Gyuri because all the parents have said DSP's people in charge since the President was hospitalized and his wife took over have done a poor job of handling the needs of the group and I think they've fired a manager that the group liked.

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^

i would suggest not to hate the kamilia because he/she is hurt too.

like the girls, any kamilia who is affected during this period should not be abandoned too.

we should encourage & help each other to overcome this hurdle together. :)

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http://www.allkpop.com/2011/02/kara-just-disband-petition-started-by-burning

This time, a netizen who is also a Kamilia wants KARA to disband.

it's not that i'm going to hate.. but i really think it might be an anti-fan..

AKP is not a trusted site.. from their point of view, (they're obviously biased) their articles are making KARA a bad image in public.. >.<

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it's not that i'm going to hate.. but i really think it might be an anti-fan..

AKP is not a trusted site.. from their point of view, (they're obviously biased) their articles are making KARA a bad image in public.. >.<

That's a misconception people have about AKP that they favor a certain group or company and dislike others. They have a lot of different writers posting articles and those writers have personal favorites. I know a number of the writers post in various threads about certain groups over on Soompi.com. There's no centralized 'bias' at AKP. If it looks like they're being biased against Kara because of all the articles about the controversy it's because AKP is most concerned about getting views. Some of the stories there can border on 'tabloid' type stuff in order to attract attention to the site and get people to click on it.

BTW, just to respond to something else that supposed 'Kara fan' who started up the disband petition. Sorry, but no. I'm not going to give my support to that person and feel bad because they're going through hard times with these lawsuits so they started the petition. If you want them to break up YOU ARE NOT A FAN. PERIOD. End of discussion as far as I'm concerned.

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That's a misconception people have about AKP that they favor a certain group or company and dislike others. They have a lot of different writers posting articles and those writers have personal favorites. I know a number of the writers post in various threads about certain groups over on Soompi.com. There's no centralized 'bias' at AKP. If it looks like they're being biased against Kara because of all the articles about the controversy it's because AKP is most concerned about getting views. Some of the stories there can border on 'tabloid' type stuff in order to attract attention to the site and get people to click on it.

AKP had already committed a lot of errors in their articles..

they shouldn't put things into negative ways just to get more views.. like the tabloid way..

they should be more professional when it comes to their articles so that their site could surely be trustworthy..

ok.. thanks for your explanation though.. ^^

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Another misconception about AKP is that they write their own article.

They don't. They merely translate from korean sources. Thus unless it's in the korean news, there will not be an article in AKP.

Problem is that AKP writers often make a lot of mistakes in their translations. In most cases, it doesn't change the message of the article, but sometimes it can totally change the meaning.

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It not true though according to jiyoung's dad. SY dad was talking about the leader of dsp.(according to allkpop though).

I like how Hara change her Twitter pic to one of them all hugging each other after lupin win. Without saying a word, that pic say it all.

About dis-band petition made by a fan, really WTH. I'm sorry but if ur a true fan you wouldn't abandon kara at a time when they need there fans the most

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I get that you feel that the parent are pulling the strings. I felt like that at one point to. But I later realized that there parents most have good reason for getting the lawyer invovled. If they were really not being treat properly by DSP after CEO's wife took over, try putting ur self in the parent shoe's. ( BTW this is just an example)

Personlaty if I was the perant I would have told the girl to talk to DSP an address the problem and try to sort them out. An then if nothing change. Then I would have gotten the lawyer involved but not landmark, professional well known lawyers.

I don't trust allkpop coz nearly ever article of there's that I have read that has been translated by them. Make Nicole, Jiyoung n SY look like the bad guys coz its not there fault that thing ended up like this.

Coz its not like they didn't try to sort out things with DSP coz they did, just that both sides couldn't agree (which is sad).

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2011.02.14

- According to The Seoul Central Court, the three member’ party has filed a lawsuit against DSP because of unreasonableness of the contract. “From January to June 2010, DSP’s revenue was 410 million won from the album, but they announced that the total cost of promotion was 390 million won, this amount of cost is clearly abnormal. While at the same time of Lupin promotion, KARA’s most popular time, DSP only paid to each member 860,000 won/6 months, equivalent to 140,000 won per month.”

- The 3 members’ representative further revealed, “After CEO Lee Hoyeon hospitalized in March last year, during the past 11 months, the members absolutely have not received services during activities like what the company had promised. In addition, regarding the group's oversea activities, the company also secretly signed with the management company in Japan without telling us about the terms of the contract. Even when Seungyeon injured her back last year, the group still had to work continuously without rest. And when promoting in Japan, the members thought that the company would assign managers who knows Japanese to accompany them, but in fact, the members have been neglected while being abroad.”

- DSP via the e-news said, “We have not heard anything about the lawsuit, we heard about it just now. We will discuss this situation in our company before giving our official stance.” They also added “Just like last time, this time the three members’ side did not inform us about this whole case beforehand. We are extremely upset.”

- Kara returned from Japan and the media followed them closely at the airport. There are reports said that the five members then gathered in a studio to continue filming for the upcoming single which will be released in Japan in March.

- About the information saying that Gyuri cried when talking about KARA, according to MyDaily, after attending the press conference and got back into the waiting room, as being asked "is the other members doing okay?", Gyuri did not respond since she has already answered in the press conference. A manager, who has been with KARA since their early days said, “Gyuri did not have the mood to eat or drink. She seems very tired.” At this time, Gyuri suddenly turned around, sighed and said “I wish everything was alright.” The title “Gyuri cried when talking about KARA” was used to attract viewers.

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by Yoo + hasomy @karaholic

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2011.02.15

- A Japanese E-news said, “UraKARA’s manager revealed that the shooting was proceeding smoothly. Currently KARA have finished filming for 7/12 episodes, and are planning to film 2 or 3 more episodes in Japan.”

- After the discussion, DSP has announced its stance “issue of dividing the profit claimed by the side of the 3 members is completely distorted. DSP Media paid according to what was agreed on the profit generated up to the current time. The details have to wait for a clear confirmation from the law.”

- Hankooki published the exclusive interview with the parents of three members.

Parents of the three members agreed to have an interview all together for the first time all because the piled up misunderstandings these past couple days. They emphasized that this was not about money matters. They also explained the process of making them lose confidence with the management company. And as parents, they obviously only want the best for their children. However, the company’s process of auditing is not transparent; this is the key issue which raises the issue.

Nicole’s mother said, “Up to September of last year, we had not once talked with companies about anything at all. And when we wanted to know something, we just asked something like “What are the kids doing?” but absolutely not "How much do the kids make?” At this time, the company kept saying, “Please trust us and leave them for us.” But in December of last year, when we asked for and received the paper works/account information, we could detect at least 20 errors. So we asked again if those 20 terms are mistaken but the management company rejected it. DSP replied, “It seems like the process of providing information back and forth has made the data become not as good as expected. However, we have provided everything that the parents requested. There is absolutely no problem with the account paperwork.”

01. Lack of professionalism

The parents have gradually lost faith in Management Company, among other reasons, what makes the parents worry the most professionalism. Since the key figures such as CEO of DSP Lee Hoyeon hospitalized in March of last year and Chief Gil Jonghwa split from DSP to have an independent company, gaps in business began to appear.

Kang Jiyoung’s parents told that the company lacked of a specific management system for the members. "When Jiyoungie asked ‘what are we doing today?’ they always answered her, 'I don’t know', isn’t that too strange? The managers also got changed frequently. They should have treated the kids well so that the two sides can collaborate in the long term, but this arises the problem of professionalism.”

However DSP thinks that they have absolutely no flaws. An obvious example is that they have succeeded in bringing KARA to Japan and becoming one of representative idols. The parents fully accredited the decision to bring KARA to Japan and the results that DSP has achieved. However, DSP Media completely absorbed in activities directed by Universal and neglected domestic activities.

Kang Jiyoung’s parents continued, “We will do our best for the kids to continue to work together. We only hope that the company will seriously invite experts to expand the kids' future. At the same time, the staff will work in a clear/transparent system. We are also unsure how the discussion will process but this is our priority at the moment. The kids also wanted the group's activities to have a certain aspect.”

02. Relationship has been damaged

When things like losing faith and lacking of professionalism were slowly found, eventually what left were only the relationship and previous affections toward each other. And on the stance of the parent, conflicts arising during inspection of paper works make them not trust the company anymore. At the same time, parents also doubts about the relationship and the cost calculation between the DSP Media and DSP Japan. The parents are unhappy and do not believe in DSP mostly because of not giving them clear explanations instead of the unreasonable profit distribution.

The management company was not pleased when the parent began their research. Misunderstandings were growing, as well as emotional harms. The parents have repeatedly nodded while listening to journalists pointing out different plan for each day between two parties. This is not a legal issue but a matter of relationship between the two sides.

Han Seungyeon parents express their opinions, “When CEO Lee Hoyeon was in power, we fully believed and entrusted everything to him. We also did not consider the trivial matters. Eventually things got pushed to the edge of a cliff like this. "

At the moment, the three parents cannot trust in the management company even for the smallest thing.

Yoo's note: since the beginning of KARA’s incident, Hankooki has been one of the rare sites which do not post exaggerated articles to attract viewers. It is also the only site which often has exclusive interviews with the parents of the three members.

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by Yoo + hasomy @karaholic

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2011.02.16

- Seungyeon went to Japan alone with a DSP’s manager.

-Mr. Tae Jinah, the chairman of KSA, said that he had met and talked with the parents of the three members as well as DSP. KSA listened to the dissatisfactions from the three members’ side and deliver those to DSP Media. Today he will get the answers from the three members’ side about what have been discussed.

-Articles about Seungyeon’s father stating that the leader was irresponsible in an interview with a Japanese TV Station have surfaced and Seungyeon’s father has been heavily criticized. (public opinion in South Korea, except the majority of Kamilias, has always sided with Gyuri right from the start of the incident [Gyuri under supports as a member of KARA, and not related to DSP]. They argue that Gyuri is being isolated and really pathetic.) In fact, Seungyeon’s father has just used the word "leader" but absolutely no reference to the name of Gyuri. The inference from the word "leader" in the statement to "Gyuri" was completely created by the press. Here is a verbatim statement of Seungyeon’s father: “We were planning to reconsider many things after the proposal, but their leader seems to be quite irresponsible. Therefore, all the information has not been transferred smoothly until today,..” (from SBS TV Entertanment Midnight). What is the truth behind this controversy? Through a phone call with Edaily today, Seungyeon’s father, Mr. Han Jongchil, has expressed, “there is a small misunderstanding here. In the interview with the Japanese TV station, it’s true that I have mentioned about leader Gyuri, however I did not have intention to blame Gyuri on this issue.” He further added, “In every organization, a leader is the person who listens to opinions of its members and then makes recommendations to the company, so even in a small group, it still needs to have a leader. However, while the discontent of members toward the management company is rising day by day, Gyuri could not carry out her role well. I'm just saying it because it is a regretful matter, absolutely did not intend to blame it on Gyuri.”

- But that was what the press has reported, Jiyoung’s father have given a completely different answer.

When SBS asked Jiyoung’s father through a phone call: “Is it true that Seungyeon’s father wanted to suggest that Gyuri was the problem?" he replied, “Certainly not. The use of the word "leader" here is obviously not appropriate but actually, we normally call the current CEO (of DSP) ‘leader.’ Saying that the leader was being irresponsible refers to that person being irresponsible. Seungyeonie’s father had a lot of things to take care of so you could easily see that he was exhausted, with his head bent down and couldn’t express his thoughts fluently.”

- Also today, a close person of Gyuri revealed, “Gyuri looks very strong, but her inside is completely different from this image, she is still a child. I often saw Gyuri being tired when trying to fulfill the leader position.” This person added, “When there is no schedule, Gyuri mostly stays at home. She almost cut off all contact with the outside world.”

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by Yoo + hasomy @karaholic

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2011.02.17

- The four members: Gyuri, Hara, Nicole, Jiyoung were on their way to Japan and continued to be surrounded by the media/reporters at the airport. Photos of the members holding hands and protecting each other from the media are truly a beautiful image.

- Today, it was the first time that DSP had a defense lawyer spoken on their behalves. Mr. Im Sanghyuk, from Sejong, who also was JYJ’s lawyer in the case of DBSK and SM Entertainment, said "The claim of three members saying that each person received only 860,000 won is untrue. During that time, our side has paid for them a total of 100 million won (20 million won for each member)"

- On Feb 17, the side of 3 members has also changed lawyer from Landmark to Mr. Kim Jinwook, who was the defense lawyer for former Super Junior’s member, Hankyung, in the case with SM Entertainment.

- Following the incident of Seungyeon’s father, the criticisms of Jiyoung’s father’s answers in an interview on Japanese TV also got brought up on Feb 16. Netizens interpret from what has been said claim that it’s out all because of money. So what did Jiyoung’s father say? "The total profit earned from the period of Lupin promotion is around 400 million won but after accounting for promotion costs, only few hundred thousand won left."; "Jiyoungie was very upset. If the management company has done something wrong, they should say sorry; but instead they claimed to do the right thing and never once apologized. If we cannot solve the problem by talking, we need to use legal action.” Jiyoung’s father in fact just repeated what was written in the lawsuit, so why should he be criticized?

- The chairman of KSA, Tae Jinah, said that the report saying the three members refused mediation is completely unfounded. They only postpone the time to answer for a few days.

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by Yoo + hasomy @karaholic

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2011.02.18

- Some E-news report that KARA has made fans disappointed and that fans were angry and saying that they would rather KARA to break up if the situation continues like this. However, in reality only 70 people have involved in the campaign for KARA’s disbandment in 2 days. As soon as the real Kamilias know about this, they have been carried out at the campaign against KARA’s disbandment. Later, the KARA’s disbandment campaign was removed. KARA’s fanclub said that this was an act of sabotage of the anti-fans.

- Today, KSA’s chairman, Mr. Tae Jinah, has received feedbacks from the three members. He said, "We are in the process of further discussion. Currently we cannot announce the details, but the result looks very promising/bright. Reconciling process is also successful; it most likely will be good news. Lawyers on both sides will sit down and talk to each other on Feb 19 as the earliest. Beside me, the participants includes lawyers of the three members DSP’s lawyers and chairman of KEPA. After further discussion with the parents of three members, we will determine the meeting date. Please wait for us a little longer. "

There is no news on Feb 19th.

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by Yoo + hasomy @karaholic

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sorry for cramming all 5 updates in one day. I know it's a lot of information. hope you guys do know feel too overwhelmed :sweatdrop:

There is no significant news about the lawsuit in these past couple days. But we will try to bring the news to you more quickly if anything comes up.

and please pardon grammar mistakes and typos ^_^

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time feels like it's moving slow. How I wish this could all end soon. I want to see my kara again.... I miss them.

kara <3

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